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Watched this as usual over on Odysee , a well deserved introduction by Grace for you Vanessa.

Many moons ago when I was defending someone a person said they saw fire spark in my eyes, to day I learnt what they meant when I saw that spark in your eyes with some of what Hartmut put to you, although I'm sure he was well intentioned I'm sure I wasn't the only person wondering where he got his information.

Thank you Vanessa for standing in defence of what you knew was right, too often people wilt and back away from saying what they know to be true, I sat spellbound as you said what needed saying.

A shame Roy didn't get to speak a little more but apart from that an all round good conversation. xx

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Thank you 🙏. Roy is a lovely guy and I am sure next time he will interject more. Hartmut is a very open minded human being and I really respect that his views were open to being challenged and perhaps changed 🌹

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I think that's what made the conversation so interesting, it's rare to witness someone with such ideas so willing to listen and you could actually see when certain things clicked for him.

Mind you, such passion when it's coming from the side of truth is a rare thing these days and even though I agree with what you say I never tire of witnessing you expressing how you feel. I'm sure Grace, Hartmut, and Roy felt it the same.

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